Shipment growth, end markets, and cost pressures

Q: Nick Cash from Goldman Sachs asked about organic volume growth potential before West Virginia and which end markets give the most confidence for 2027.

A: Leon Topalian, Chair and CEO, highlighted robust demand across data centers, chips, natural gas power plants, LNG export terminals, nuclear utilities, pharma, defense, and HVAC, expressing strong optimism for 2027 and noting that moderating capital expenditures will significantly boost free cash flow.

Q: Nick Cash from Goldman Sachs asked a follow-up about conversion cost inflation and margin trajectory for the fourth quarter.

A: Jack Sullivan, CFO, noted that conversion costs ticked up due to consumables, freight, energy, and planned outages, but emphasized that EBITDA margin still expanded to over 20%. He guided to a modest uptick in conversion costs and pre-operating start-up costs for the fourth quarter.

Fourth-quarter shipment guidance and demand drivers

Q: Bill Peterson from JPMorgan asked about fourth-quarter shipment guidance, factoring in shipping days, holidays, and planned downtime.

A: Jack Sullivan, CFO, explained that Q4 has fewer shipping days, additional holiday non-shipping days, and heavier planned outages at large mills, with quarterly shipments historically trending down about 7%. He added that stable steel mills earnings are expected due to stronger pricing offsetting volume softness.

Q: Bill Peterson from JPMorgan asked about the scale of data center opportunities and the border wall volume outlook.

A: Leon Topalian and John Hollatz, Executive, stated that data center demand represents about 15% of the enterprise backlog and that Nucor supplies roughly 95% of the steel required outside a data center. John Hollatz added that the border wall requires about 1,500 tons of steel per mile across roughly 1,400 miles, with thousands of tons shipped weekly through 2027 and 2028.

Merchant bar, rebar capacity, and end markets

Q: Lawson Winder from BofA Securities asked what end markets are driving merchant bar demand and whether it is displacing rebar capacity.

A: Leon Topalian and Randy Spicer, Executive, noted that merchant bar is driven by high-growth markets like data centers requiring larger sections. Randy Spicer confirmed that rising margins are allowing flexible rebar producers to move into the merchant bar space.

Q: Lawson Winder from BofA Securities asked a follow-up regarding specific capacity shifts between merchant bar and rebar.

A: Leon Topalian explained that Nucor's geographic footprint and historical mill investments, such as at Darlington and Cant, allow the company to successfully shift and modify production to meet regional customer needs.

Automotive strategy and exposed panel capabilities

Q: Tristan Gresser from BNP Paribas asked about tonnage expectations for auto shipments, annual contracts with OEMs, and EAF quality for exposed panels.

A: Leon Topalian and Noah Hanners, Executive, forcefully rejected the notion that EAF producers cannot make exposed automotive panels, noting that West Virginia will produce 30% automotive steels. Noah Hanners added that Nucor expects to do about 1 million tons at West Virginia, with a significant portion going into auto exposed, backed by existing qualifications and relationships.

Q: An unknown analyst from Wells Fargo asked for a breakdown of data center exposure across different products.

A: Leon Topalian and Stephen Laxton, President and COO, stated that the 15% backlog figure is enterprise-wide, with structural steel at 30% to 35% driven by unprecedented beam demand, while Vulcraft and the metal buildings group also see significant data center volume.

Q: An unknown analyst from Wells Fargo asked about the commercial contract structure for exposed auto qualifications.

A: Noah Hanners explained that fixed contracts represent a very low single-digit percentage of the company, primarily in auto, and that overall agreements for 2027 feature improved quality, lower discounts, higher extras, and tighter volume variances.

Q: Richard Garchitorena from Barclays asked about customer pricing feedback and how fixed price contract resets will impact results in 2027.

A: Noah Hanners noted that the sheet group sees robust demand and that commercial terms for 2027 contracts are significantly better with improved quality and pricing terms.

Steel products division performance and outlook

Q: Tristan Gresser from BNP Paribas asked about the main drivers of the Steel Products division's strong performance and expectations for ASP increases and margins.

A: John Hollatz highlighted that strong performance came from multiple products, including the Tubular Group, Vulcraft joist and deck with order pricing exceeding backlog, the Buildings group in data centers, and record earnings in the Insulated Panel Group, with backlogs up about 25%.