RoTCE trajectory and seasonality

Q: John McDonald with Truist asked about the implied deceleration in fourth quarter RoTCE given the year-to-date performance.

A: Gonzalo Luchetti explained that while there is typical fourth quarter seasonality in markets, often a 20% decline, the firm remains confident in achieving an RoTCE above 11% for the full year. He noted that the strategy is working and they remain committed to the 11% to 13% target for 2027 and 2028.

Capital return and regulatory glide path

Q: John McDonald with Truist asked about the glide path to capital targets and how interest rates affect buybacks.

A: Gonzalo Luchetti stated the CET1 ratio is 12.8%, which is 120 basis points above the regulatory minimum. He confirmed the firm is comfortable with the directional target of 13.1% and will continue to balance resilience with capital returns, noting $3 billion in buybacks this quarter.

Q: Erika Najarian with UBS asked if the buyback pace is sustainable with higher rates and if Basel III endgame revisions would be prospective.

A: Jane Fraser emphasized the priority of investing in high-return growth opportunities. Gonzalo Luchetti added that they are operating based on current rules and the glide path to 12.1% by 2028, noting they will adjust as more regulatory clarity emerges.

Q: Manan Gosalia with Morgan Stanley asked if the 13.1% capital target is fixed or if it will be revisited after finalization of capital rules.

A: Gonzalo Luchetti clarified that the 13.1% target anchors to current rules and that they will reassess once there is full clarity on the final rules and stress test results.

Q: Ebrahim Poonawala with Bank of America asked if the Fed finalizing rules before year-end provides more flexibility.

A: Gonzalo Luchetti clarified that they do not expect perfect clarity by year-end and will continue to update the market as more information becomes available.

Investment spending and efficiency

Q: Mike Mayo with Wells Fargo asked about the $5 billion investment plan, specifically how much was spent in the third quarter and why it was pulled forward.

A: Gonzalo Luchetti explained that the pull-forward is fully embedded in the $5 billion plan. About half of the $500 million pull-forward landed in the third quarter, including $200 million in severance, with the rest in technology and marketing.

Q: Mike Mayo with Wells Fargo asked if the fourth quarter return outlook implies something going wrong.

A: Gonzalo Luchetti clarified that the guidance is based on an abundance of caution regarding market activity, not an expectation of a negative event.

Q: Kenneth Usdin with Autonomous asked about the jump-off point for expenses and the benefits of transformation.

A: Jane Fraser stated that the firm is demonstrating expense discipline, reducing stranded costs to a $100 million run rate, and leveraging AI to drive efficiency.

Equities business growth

Q: Glenn Schorr with Evercore ISI asked about aspirations for the equities business given the gap between prime balance growth and revenue growth.

A: Jane Fraser explained that the firm is systematically scaling the equities business by committing resources to prime balances and technology, noting that clients are seeking an alternative provider.

Q: Erika Najarian with UBS asked if the fourth quarter market decline guidance is conservative or related to business mix.

A: Jane Fraser clarified that it is simply normal seasonality and not to read too much into it.

Wealth management performance

Q: Glenn Schorr with Evercore ISI asked why wealth fees were only up 5% despite strong net new money flows.

A: Gonzalo Luchetti explained that this is due to lapping strategic decisions from a year ago, and that revenue growth will better align with drivers once those are lapped.

Rate sensitivity and services

Q: Manan Gosalia with Morgan Stanley asked about rate sensitivity and the impact of higher short-end rates.

A: Gonzalo Luchetti noted that the firm is net positive in a higher-for-longer environment due to asset sensitivity, particularly in the services franchise.

Q: Kenneth Usdin with Autonomous asked about the sustainability of deposit growth in services and securities repricing.

A: Gonzalo Luchetti acknowledged that deposit growth may normalize from current levels but emphasized the firm's confidence in the services franchise, which has historically grown through various rate environments.

Q: Ebrahim Poonawala with Bank of America asked why the services RoTCE would move from 30% to a mid-20s target.

A: Jane Fraser described the services business as having a deep moat with four pillars of growth, including deepening client relationships and investing in next-generation platforms, ensuring high returns through the cycle.

Customer behavior and credit

Q: Scott Siefers with TD Cowen asked when higher rates might visibly affect customer behavior.

A: Gonzalo Luchetti noted that while marginal segments might feel pressure, the portfolio is 86% prime plus. Jane Fraser added that corporate clients are shifting toward loans and revolvers for flexibility, but there is no slowdown in AI-related investment.

Q: Matthew O'Connor with Deutsche Bank asked about the drag of general purpose card initiatives on revenue.

A: Gonzalo Luchetti explained that contra revenue from rewards and profit-sharing agreements is part of the investment, but the underlying drivers of spend, borrow, and acquire are healthy.

Q: Matthew O'Connor with Deutsche Bank asked about the private label card business.

A: Jane Fraser mentioned that the firm is seeing a shift toward co-brand propositions, which aligns with consumer behavior.

Investment banking pipeline

Q: David Chiaverini with Jefferies asked about the fourth quarter investment banking pipeline.

A: Jane Fraser described the pipeline as solid, driven by U.S. activity. She noted that DCM is supported by refinancing needs, and while IPOs are selective, the overall sentiment for deal-making remains constructive.

AI strategy and participation

Q: David Chiaverini with Jefferies asked about Citi's participation in financing the AI infrastructure build-out.

A: Jane Fraser highlighted the firm's active role in equity and debt capital markets for major tech and AI-related companies.

Q: Kunpeng Ma with China Securities asked about client demand in services.

A: Jane Fraser explained that clients need real-time, secure liquidity and payment solutions, and the firm is seeing growth across new corridors like the Middle East to Asia.

Q: Kunpeng Ma with China Securities asked about digital assets and stablecoins.

A: Jane Fraser stated that the firm is focused on tokenization and deposit-based blockchain solutions, which are seeing more growth than stablecoins due to lower complexity.

Q: Mike Mayo with Wells Fargo asked if Citi is an AI victim or beneficiary, specifically regarding deposit flight and efficiency.

A: Jane Fraser asserted that Citi is a beneficiary, citing measurable productivity gains, such as a 30% to 40% increase in product development speed and reduced tech vendor spend. She dismissed deposit flight concerns, emphasizing the strength of the services network.