Value exchange and pricing

Q: George Notter of Wolfe Research asked for details on the value exchange, including price increases and terms.

A: Marc Graff explained that price increases range from high single digits to high teens or low 20s depending on the product and customer. He noted that the conversation is holistic, covering payment terms and fill rates, and that tariff refunds provided a one-time 70 basis point uplift in the third quarter that will not continue.

Backlog and demand sustainability

Q: Tal Liani of Bank of America asked if the backlog growth is driven by customers buying ahead due to supply constraints.

A: Gary Smith and Marc Graff stated that the backlog is driven by lead times and real demand rather than customers buying ahead. They do not expect supply and demand to balance until 2028.

Q: Tal Liani asked about the customer list and the role of neoscalers.

A: Gary Smith noted that 50% of the business is with hyperscalers, but neoscalers are becoming an increasingly important and growing part of the business.

Supply chain and delivery

Q: Meta Marshall of Morgan Stanley asked if pricing adjustments are dependent on delivery timelines and if new suppliers have been qualified.

A: Marc Graff stated that there are no performance-based escalators and price increases apply as backlog converts to revenue. He added that the company is qualifying new suppliers and exploring new technologies to satisfy demand.

Backlog composition and demand inflection

Q: Joseph Cardoso of JPMorgan asked where demand is inflecting and how the backlog is weighted between 2027 and 2028.

A: Gary Smith and Scott McFeely noted broad demand across line systems and modems. They stated that the vast majority of the $10 billion backlog has a customer request date in 2027.

Consumption models and operating expenses

Q: Ruben Roy of Stifel asked if the consumption model for performance optics is being productized.

A: Scott McFeely clarified that the consumption model is a bespoke relationship for specific customers rather than a broad productization.

Q: Ruben Roy asked about the mechanics of operating expenses for 2027.

A: Marc Graff noted that planning is underway and will include the reinvestment of one-time variable compensation.

Data center construction and product mix

Q: Ryan Koontz of Needham & Co. asked if the pace of data center construction impacts WAN projects.

A: Gary Smith stated that Ciena is largely immune to data center construction pacing for the next few years because they are connecting existing data centers and supporting GPU refreshes.

Q: Ryan Koontz asked about the product mix shift between line systems and pluggables.

A: Marc Graff and Scott McFeely noted that plugs and RLS are growing above the corporate average, while DCOM is accretive but lumpy.

Hyper-Rail and telco business

Q: Tim Long of Barclays asked about the Hyper-Rail ramp and the durability of the telco business.

A: Marc Graff said Hyper-Rail will reach standardization by the end of 2026 and ramp in 2027 to several hundred million dollars. Gary Smith added that service provider growth is steady, bolstered by MOFN activity in North America, India, Japan, and the Middle East.

Software and interconnects

Q: Jeffrey Koche of Raymond James asked if web-scale RLS deployments drive software revenue.

A: Scott McFeely explained that these deals include on-box software and intelligence, not just commodity hardware. Marc Graff added that RLS margins are improving and approaching the corporate average, with Hyper-Rail expected to be accretive.

Q: Jeffrey Koche asked about the company's position on Coherent-Lite and Optical Circuit Switching.

A: Scott McFeely stated that Coherent-Lite is inevitable and Optical Circuit Switching is a positive trend, though he did not provide specific product announcements.

2027 outlook and scale across

Q: Tim Savageaux of Northland Capital Markets asked about the prospects for accelerating revenue growth in 2027.

A: Marc Graff stated that the 2027 guidance is a floor and that growth is currently supply-constrained.

Q: Tim Savageaux asked about the scale across opportunity.

A: Gary Smith described scale across as a major demand driver that is just beginning and represents a massive opportunity for the next few years.